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Cannot detect cFP2120

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I have two systems that are experiencing similar problems.

 

I was running a cFP2120 system for a while with no issues and the other day the LabVIEW program was giving erroneous data (all zeroes).  I checked in NI MAX and the cFP2120 is reported as disconnected.

 

I tried updating the Fieldpoint drivers to version 14.5 and NI MAX to 14.5.0f0.

 

But the system is still showing as disconnected.

 

Tried starting the FP module in Safe Mode and it still shows as disconnected.  Tried resetting the IP using the dip switch and I still cannot communicate with this module.

 

I am connected directly to the module using a crossover cable.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks!


i bought a machine controlled by fp1600 it does not comunicate with its own laptop i been told is missing a program called bridge view anybody now where to find it

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i bought a machine  (shock absorber dyno)    controlled by fp1600. it does not comunicate with its own laptop. i been told is missing a program called bridge view anybody now where to find ?

 

zero output from fieldpoint read vi

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I'm new to this forum and to Labview so bear with me.  I'm running Labview 2010 on a windows 7 computer. I'm directly connected to a cFP 1808 (ethernet crossover cable with static IP) and trying to read data from an AI-100 module. I see my system in Data Neighborhood and Remote System in MAX. I have configured two inputs in MAX, channel 0 and channel 1 for voltage, ranges 0-18 and 0-36. I can test the data in MAX and get appropriate data.

In Labview, I drag a channel from MAX to the block diagram and wire the value terminal to a gauge indicator. The gauge is in a while loop. The VI runs without an apparent error, but the  value is 00+0E. I suspect I am missing some simple setting or step in my code or MAX configuration but can't figure out what it is. If this isn't obvious what I am doing wrong from my description, I will post the VI at a later date. Unfortunately I am away from the system as I write this. Thanks for the help.

fieldpoint communication problem

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Hi, I'm using an exe labview software development (made with the Labview 6.1 version for Win 2000 intially). then, there's a communication with Fieldpoint FP 1000 module (and FP-TC-120, FP-TC-110) for temperature and voltage acquisition. The file used to configured the module is an *.IAK one. Problem : when I launched NI Max, I can found the module and the measures. When I launch the application no measure are read (port number, name, speed are correct). Any suggestion to solve this? thanks. regards,

Requesting information on cFP-18x using Ethernet UDP

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Hello,

  Would like to migreate communications to cFP-18x module from serial RS-232 to Ethernet UDP/IP.

  Can anyone supply options and alternatives for this goal?

  Best path forward would be using the same ASCII string from serial RS-232 using Ethernet UDP/IP.

  Thoughts?

Doug

cFP-1804 MODBUS settings

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Hi! I want to directly comunicate with cFP-1804 with Zenon scada over TCP Modbus protocol. How I can change comunication protocol on cFP-1804 TCP port ? I cant find out it ? If somebody knows, please help.

Labview getting crashed

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Hi,

When I start LabVIEW, after few seconds it gets crashed. Any solution?

 

Hardware - cFP-2110

 

 

FP1601 not detected

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MAX does not detect the FP-1601 unit.

FP-1601 has been reset as the IP was unknown. The reset switch is returned to the OFF position. All switches are OFF.

Status LED is blinking red at 1 blink per second (seems normal).

Power LED is on.

MAX version 10.5.0f0.

LabView 2010

Windows 7; no firewall or virus software running.

 

When I refresh the MAX 'Remote Systems' I observer a UDP message being sent by my host computer (expected and normal).

FP-1601 'Activity' LED flashes when MAX is refreshed.

 

The response from IP 0.0.0.0 is a DHCP request.

 

None of the FP-1601 setup info indicates I need a DHCP server running on my host computer.

 

 


Set voltage level of discrete output module

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I have a couple of FP-DO-DC60.  The limited documentation I've been able to find says their output voltage range is 3-60V but doesn't say how to set the voltage level.  Does anyone know how to do this?

cFP RS232 possbily not according to standard?

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We are using a cFP 2220 as multipurpose controllers, and in some scenarios, we implement additional safety circuitry to protect the I/O ports against incorrect connections; typically power connected to signal. Up until now, we have been using the RS485 ports on cFP2220, and safety circuitry is trivial with TVS's and TBU's

 

However, on a recent project, the spec's are slightly different and we need to use the RS232 port.

 

Page four of TIA-232 interface  http://www.ti.com/general/docs/lit/getliterature.tsp?baseLiteratureNumber=slla037&fileType=pdf states that:

 

TIA/EIA-232-F Electrical Specification

All 232 circuits carry voltage signals, with the voltage at the connector pins not

To exceed ±25 V. All pins must be able to withstand a short circuit to any other pin

Without sustaining permanent damage.

 

(I need to dig deeper on google to find the complete standard, but the above should illustrate the issue)  

 

I guess it's possible to interpret the standard in different ways; but since any pin can have upto +/-25V, then my understanding of the standard is that any pin should be able to withstand +/-25V. As 24VDC is our supply voltage, it would seem like we don't need to protect a RS232 line.  

 

But: The RS232 IC driver (farnell:2496636) clearly states that the maximum input voltage limits for the transmitter is -0,3 / +6V . There are no additional safety components in the cFP 2220.

 

In most cases internal current limitations probably ensures that the conditions outlined by the standard are met, but that makes the protection of the cFP dependent on the properties of the device connected to it. It is not independently capable of protecting itself.

 

And it definitely blows up when a 24VDC power supply is applied to  pin 3 and GND. So; We need to implement a protective circuit. Our "go-to" method of TBU's and TVS's doesn't really work here, as we need to use 15V TVS diodes, and the remaining ~15V is still enough to blow up the driver. Under these conditions, the TBU's also doesn't trigger correctly. There are loads of alternative solutions, I could simply add a 2.2kOhm between the driver and TVS, but this degrades the driver output to ~4V, which is not thrilling. Other options are a "crowbar" or lower voltage diodes, but both of these solutions are complicated or have other unfortunate implications.     

So; my questions:

 

1) Is my interpretation of the standard correct, and that the cPF is not in complete compliance with TIA-232?

2) What is the NI recommendation for continuous overvoltage protection of a rs232 line?  

 

 

 

Upgrading from FieldPoint FP-1000, FP-RLY-420, and FP-DI-330

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Hi,

 

Looking to upgrade my modules without having to change anything else.  We run Macs with LabVIEW, connected to the FP-1000 modules through an ethernet-to-GPIB converter, and then through a GPIB-to-RS232 converter.  I'm looking at the NI 9482 to replace my relay modules, the NI 9437 to replace my digital input modules, and the NI cRIO-9074 to replace my FP-1000's.  Will I be able to put all of these in place and still keep the rest of my hardware/software intact?

 

Also, other suggestions would be greatly appreciated, either for NI hardware or any other company that you guys might use for your applications.  Thanks.

RS232/RS485 Converter Circuit Receiving Problem

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Hi,

 

I'm trying to make an RS232/RS485 converter circuit. I used a circuit from http://airborn.com.au/layout/232cnv/232to485.html and i changed some components on that circuit. Then i established my converter circuit that i linked the scheme.

 

I'm also adding PCB Layout(1)(2) and final board displays to show you. I used copper pour as ground and i connected lacking ground connections with additional wires after the board was prepared. To test my circuit, I used another RS232/RS485 converter circuit which I know that is working without a problem. I connected A and B outputs of my circuit's RS485 connector to the A and B outputs of other circuit's connector. Then i connected these two converter circuits to computer with RS232 USB cable. I tested the communication between these circuits using CuteCOM serial communication terminal. I used two terminals for my circuit and other. (Baud Rate:9600)

 

I observed that data is transmitting from my converter circuit to other but not receiving from other circuit to mine.

 

I also tested the other converter circuit with another RS232/RS485 converter circuit which I know that is working without a problem, and i realised that there is not any problem during transmitting and recieving process, so data can be sended and recieved.

 

These are the list of the changes that i made on original scheme in http://airborn.com.au/layout/232cnv/232cnv40.gif for my converter scheme;

 

1. Maxim's MAX232CWE was used instead of ICL232.

2. Texas Instruments' SN65HVD3082E was used instead of 75176.

3. As voltage regulator, Exar's SPX3819 was used instead of LM2936Z5.

4. As transistor, BC256A (pnp) was used instead of BC557 (pnp).

5. 22 uF capacitors were used instead of 2.2 uF, for the ones connected to MAX232CWE.

6. On original scheme, a 6 pin connector was used as RS485 connector and two pins were used for A,B connections, one pin was connected for ground, one pin was connected to the 9th pin (RI - Ring Indicator) of the RS232 connector with a jumper. Unlike these, in my circuit, 2 pin connector was used as RS485 connector and only A,B connecitons were made. (RI and ground connections were not used.)

7. On original circuit, A and B pins of SN65HVD3082E Transreciever were terminated with a 120 Ohm resistor and a jumper. I did not do this on my circuit.

 

I'm investigating about the problem which can be related with changes that i made on original circuit or another reason. I will be very happy if you share your idea about the problem of just transmitting and not recieving data on my converter circuit.

bad quality received from network module FP-1600

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Got FP-1600 on Lookout 6.7 running OK till few days ago when I got this message under alarms:< bad quality received from network module>

What/how can I configure and save the configuration? In MAX when I try to go to configuration I get an error attached.

Please advise, thank you

Can you connect a DB37 cable to a cfp-cb-1 connector block?

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Hello All,

I am looking at upgrading an existing compact field point unit to a cDAQ unit and I am figuring out a way to test the new system without having to unwire and re-wire all of the old compact field point terminal blocks for testing.  I would like to connect a db37 cable to the cfp-cb-1 connector blocks that are on the existing system so I can do tests with the new cDAQ replacement system without having to unwire everything.  Unfortunately, the hardware is in another state and I do not have a physical cfp-cb-1 terminal block sitting in front of me to test to make sure a db-37 cable will mate properly without running into the cfp-cb-1 housing.  Has anyone done this before, or know if a cable will connect without interference issues?  Thanks!

I have the labview 2014 and i can connect to the fp-1000 , but there is no data coming up, i am using the temperature measurement example for the fp-tc-120

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I am new to using filedpoint, I  have the labview 2014, i am using the temperature measurement example for the fp-tc-120, it will find the fp-tc-120 but when i run the programme im not getting and data back and i duno why , be grateful if anyone can help ?


ERROR 34200

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I am still getting the error 34200, is this because I am using the evaluate fieldbus 4.1? or is there something else i need to do, I have attached a picture of what appears. Can anybody help me with this please.LABVIEW.PNG

FP-TB-3 CJC calibration

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The FP-TB-3 has a CJ imbeded into the TB. This is not calibrated separatly but is used in conjuction with FP-120. The FP-120 is calibrated for CJC but is never linked to the TB. There should be a system calibration between the TB and FP-120 and be used togheter?

Do you know the thermistor type used in the FP-TB-3?

There is a posibility to measre the thermistor propertise from the terminals?

 

driver fieldpoint 6.0.4

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Dear NI community,

 

I've a problem with my cFP 1804. I've installed LabView 2009 on Windows XP and the 6.0.10 version of Fieldpoint. I can import my Fieldpoint in LabView (previously configured in MAX), but when I wanna launch my VI, a error message appears, saying that LabView can not communicate with my Fieldpoint.

I searched an answer by NI, and found that in need the 6.0.4 version (apparently the only version who support a cFP 1804) of Fieldpoint. But actually I didn't found it on Internet.

Can someone help me?

 

Thanks

 

Neo

CFP1804 with AIO 600

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I have been trying to use a 1804 network module with a AIO-610, this has been working fine so far with firmware 6.08 (tried 6.05 but no improvement) I can write AO channels in max and via modbus however when I try and read the AI channels (using voltage 0-36V range and a 24V hardwired voltage input) the reading in max remains floating. Is this a firmware/compatabilty issue or am I doing something wrong? I have swapped the module for a known working unit and the same issue arises.

 

I am using LV 2015.

cFP disconnected in MAX but responds to UDP broadcasts

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Hey guys, 

 

I have 4 cFP controllers in the field monitoring a whole bunch of sensors. Each sensor has it's own calibration, and so I built an OO hierarchy based on Dynamic Dispatch to handle it. Now there is one piece of generic software and the 4 controllers use it to do their tasks (Acquire and Log). The first three controllers work great and run for days, the fourth dies within 1 hour of running. It's the exact same architecture and code on the controllers. 

I have a seperate Network thread that sends out some Health data of the device over a UDP port - it broadcasts it to the network (CPU Usage, HDD Space, Uptime). For the fourth controller, I'll notice after an hour that it's disconnected in MAX, I can't FTP into it, I can't connect through the LabVIEW project BUT this Network thread is still alive and broadcasting over the network.

Can anyone answer the following two questions?

1) In regards to the broadcast signal being active - why is that exactly? I can't get into anything else through MAX or the FTP Server...
2) In regards to the crashing of the fourth controller -> The fourth controller has some complex math where it tries to determine the root of a polynomial. The NI Toolkit NI_AALPro is used for this, and is pretty heavy. It even has a DLL call. I have a suspicion that these VI's are causing the RT Controller to crash. I'll double check tomorrow by disabling these within the code, but has anyone done this type of thing before and run into issues?

 

 

Thanks!

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